Just Pondering Part 412

M. PenBelieve it or not, there are those who live outside of the system; they do not own a birth certificate, they do not have an identification card, they do not have a bank account of their own, they do not own a computer and they do not own a cell phone.

You may think that such people only exist in so-called primitive cultures or remote tribes in the desert or forested areas in other parts of the world. But, there are some people who are living outside of the system that reside in well-developed countries like the United States, Great Britain and Canada, to name a few. It is hard to comprehend that such a thing is really taking place in the 21st century.

But, why would people choose to live like that? I could only speculate the reasons why a person would choose to do such a thing. Maybe, they have made the conscientious decision to remain undetected and for some unknown reason, they prefer to be ghosts within our modern-day society.

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22 thoughts on “Just Pondering Part 412

  1. Alastair May 19, 2013 at 5:23 am Reply

    Could be witness protection, or they have had a bad experience. Alternatively, it Connor McLoud of the Clan McLoud ;-)


  2. stevehi May 19, 2013 at 9:13 am Reply

    Living off the grid doesn’t seem like a bad idea these days though it is difficult or next to impossible . I have known a few people who lived like this . They never paid income tax , and never used government services , independent people all . They accepted the consequences of their choices . They lived like Nomads, perhaps some still do.


    • Renard Moreau May 19, 2013 at 3:51 pm Reply

      [ Smiles ] Thank you for sharing this with me, my friend.


  3. aletifer May 19, 2013 at 10:05 am Reply

    I don’t know about always living this way, but I can certainly think of reasons why people would choose this after reaching a certain age. It wouldn’t take too much to become tired of all the crap, all the ridiculous fads, the ads and marketing being shoved down your throat each day, the obsession with whatever’s quick and easy and discarding anything that takes real commitment, chasing more stuff to buy, more social media followers, better job titles and suburban locations, treating our friends as commodities and our loved ones as inconveniences to be mitigated. I can fully understand someone saying “enough is enough” and opting out.


    • Renard Moreau May 19, 2013 at 3:53 pm Reply

      [ Smiles ] Thanks for sharing your point of view with me.


  4. Robert M. Weiss May 19, 2013 at 11:40 am Reply

    Perhaps such people want some privacy, something that in modern culture is becoming more and more difficult to attain.


    • Renard Moreau May 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm Reply

      [ Smiles ] Yes, perhaps!


    • Hikari Yori May 24, 2013 at 2:09 am Reply

      I also think so


      • Renard Moreau May 24, 2013 at 2:51 pm

        [ Smiles ] Thank you for commenting.


      • Hikari Yori May 28, 2013 at 3:52 am

        :-) Welcome


  5. Debra May 19, 2013 at 2:17 pm Reply

    Living 20 miles from the Mexican border,in the South Padre Island area, it is very common for folks to have none of the above….except a cellphone. Being invisible is a life skill for them. Poverty in the local area is another reason folks don’t have documents and technology, except the cellphone. I suspect Smart Phones will be the connectors for those who have no computer expertise (and those who live in poverty), but are curious about the web and all it offers. Seems like most people can figure out a way to have a Smart Phone. I see it as their first introduction to the rest of the world (beyond cable TV of course). Still, they are careful how they use their cellphones. So not off the grid exactly, but still stumbling through money orders for bill paying and working to be invisible.


  6. EightLeggedGemini May 19, 2013 at 7:34 pm Reply

    some people feel uncomfortable having to tow the line of society, i don’t blame them :)
    i have a friend lives in a small shed with a stove, instead of tv he borrows books.
    during this winter/spring he has suffered but he wouldn’ want it any other way :)


    • Renard Moreau May 19, 2013 at 7:35 pm Reply

      [ Smiles ] Some people are like that.

      Thanks for your input!


  7. runningwiththecopier May 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm Reply

    Living off the grid is what it’s called. People have been doing it consciously for a long time. When you think about it the government and big business stick their noses in our business all the time. Some people just absolutely choose not to live where they are a statistic or a number for some government or business. It can definitely be done. Point in fact Vancouver Island there was a hippie community on the west shore very remote totally off the grid. They made goods by hand to sell. They even had children. Here is a link you may find interesting.



  8. Alex Jones June 22, 2013 at 5:54 pm Reply

    It could be their cultural background such as the travellers or gypsies in the UK.


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